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Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Adam » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:29 am

Yup, I'm talking about Facebook, MySpace, Twitter etc. If you ask me, they're all just a waste of time. Instead of making virtual friends you could be outside, making real ones. What do you guys think? :)
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Rico » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:13 am

It depends where you sit this, social networks espiecially facebook have opened new advertising revenues for companies big and small which in turn has opened alot of new jobs for people which we need in the global economical depression were in at the moment, in the case of twitter it has provided a new way to pass down simple information via there feeds example a dance lesson company can easisly provide information on new unexpected changes.

Personally I am not a big fan of what it does to an individual, it provides a place to escape to and avoid the world which is not really a good thing, plus it's a new way to victimize and bully people but in moderation a social network like facebook can do good if only used to talk with people you can't normally reach.

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-Provides new advertisement revenues
-New jobs
-Easy information transferrer
-Long range communication

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-Hiding place for people
-New form of bullying
-Consumes a persons life
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby kcreddevil » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:22 pm

I disagree most people are actually friends with people they know somehow, it helps you get to know people you don't know that well better and connect with friends you already know. I think it makes it harder to escape and avoid anything.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Rico » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:41 pm

People who use social networks sometimes have a false sense of confidence with people and they say stuff they would not say in person.
kcreddevil wrote:I disagree most people are actually friends with people they know somehow, it helps you get to know people you don't know that well better and connect with friends you already know. I think it makes it harder to escape and avoid anything.

Thats different obviously if the person in question hangs out with his mates then he is using the social network in moderation I simply meant when people form relationships with people on a social network and only communicate through that and not in person.
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Postby kcreddevil » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:52 pm

True that could be bad but that's not really the purpose of social networks, it's more about connecting with friends. Rarely you see people who use these sites to form relationships with people they will never meet and stalking is made so much easier (not that I do that).
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Scaveleon » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:58 pm

I'm all against Facebook. MySpace and Twitter sounds like good stuff from what I've heard so far.

IMO, there's a whole lot of problems created with the Facebook. It's like throwing your privacy out of the window.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Rico » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:03 pm

Social networks may have the good intention of trying to establish a safe and kind place for friends to chat while they are at home but just because it has good intentions doesn't mean that is what it is doing, within your circle of friends on your social networks I'm sure you all use the network with respect and just fun like you said but in reality a vast majority of the population of a social network are people trapped in the idea that they have a social life because they socialize online but this isn't the case they are not actually going out and physically socializing.

Overall I agree with Scaveleon where I'm sure there are plenty of people sensibly using Facebook ect... there are many people on there with the soul purpose of stealing your details and using it against you.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby kcreddevil » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:06 pm

Scaveleon wrote:IMO, there's a whole lot of problems created with the Facebook. It's like throwing your privacy out of the window.

Agreed but until there's a better alternative people will continue to use it.
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Postby Ovoon » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:11 pm

What do you think people do on these sites? They're for people you know in real life. It's incredibly useful and not a waste of time. That is, unless you use it the wrong way like some people do. It's not something you should invest all of your time into, and the games are stupid. But if Facebook helps me keep in touch with all of my friends and family, then heck yes, I'll use it. I don't make friends on there. And I only accept requests of people I know.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Scaveleon » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:42 pm

kcreddevil wrote:
Scaveleon wrote:IMO, there's a whole lot of problems created with the Facebook. It's like throwing your privacy out of the window.

Agreed but until there's a better alternative people will continue to use it.


The only thing that makes it a better than alternatives it its popularity.

This actually goes back to history. In the past, Facebook was a site where you could connect with friends while having a tight hand on what private information to share and with whom. Today, it's almost the opposite - Not only Facebook knows you, but also their marketing systems. They don't even need the permission to do so, because you agreed when you made your account. I suppose that's fair in business/internet sense, but it's amoral otherwise.
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Postby kcreddevil » Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:51 pm

It's definitely wrong that they make money of my 'likes' and anything I share but they do have ways to control what info is shared its just that most people don't even think of changing any of their privacy settings.
Scaveleon wrote:The only thing that makes it a better than alternatives it its popularity.

Yes most people say all they're friends are already on one site so they refuse to join then, only another company that already has a wide presence would be able to compete. Hopefully Google's 'Google Me' could be better.
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Postby Ixayou » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:14 pm

I've met tons of new people through facebook, so i dont see whats so bad about it? :?
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Postby Gamerdude » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:04 am

Scaveleon wrote:IMO, there's a whole lot of problems created with the Facebook. It's like throwing your privacy out of the window.

Depends how you use it. I mean, there's a lot of stupid people who post every little detail about themselves, making it ridiculously easy for cyberstalkers to take over your life. But then there's people like myself, who don't give away any information, except for name and orientation. I haven't listed my school, hometown, religion etc. And I only have 5 photos of myself uploaded that no one can see unless I set it as my profile picture. It all depends on how you use it.

However, I also find it scary that whatever you put on the internet is there for life. And that more and more employers these days Google potential staff members to see if they have Facebook/Myspace.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Scaveleon » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:46 am

Gamerdude wrote:
Scaveleon wrote:IMO, there's a whole lot of problems created with the Facebook. It's like throwing your privacy out of the window.

Depends how you use it. I mean, there's a lot of stupid people who post every little detail about themselves, making it ridiculously easy for cyberstalkers to take over your life. But then there's people like myself, who don't give away any information, except for name and orientation. I haven't listed my school, hometown, religion etc. And I only have 5 photos of myself uploaded that no one can see unless I set it as my profile picture. It all depends on how you use it.


I agree. It's just that the stupid people overshadow the smarter people like you and Ovoon.
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Postby Gamerdude » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:09 am

Ovoon wrote:And I only accept requests of people I know.

Same here. I also only accept requests from people I like. I see all these people on Facebook adding other people I know they dislike and all I can think is "Why? Just so you look popular?".

Scaveleon wrote:I agree. It's just that the stupid people overshadow the smarter people like you and Ovoon.

True, I suppose. It's unfortunate.
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Postby JilutheFang » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:52 am

I don't like social networking.
You always get spamed by "happy birthday" messages and all you can do is writing stuff.
I can do that in this forum too, without that faked 'we-are-547-friends' athmosphere.
As If one person would have that many friends IRL. O_o
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby tuliron » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:14 pm

I only use facebook to talk with people that are my friends.
Like friends who just moved up to Maine. (far away for me)
I never accept friend requests from people idk.
so i only have 150 friends :P

I actually like people knowing it's my birthday :)
besides if they don't send it with facebook they will just text me saying happy birthday.

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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby 2cool4me4 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:14 pm

*ahem*

http://www.live.com

Just like facebook and twitter, only combined. Plus, Hotmail and MSN come from it. I'm against facebook, and Live is un-popular enough that I don't have to worry about 2 million peeps asking me about, well, me. I only have my friends on it. I don't think that there is a way to find other people on Live. I like live. I don't like Facebook. Call it paranoid, I have my reasons.
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Postby Ovoon » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:12 pm

I HATE Windows Live. HATE.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Adam » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:06 am

Ovoon wrote:I HATE Windows Live. HATE.


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Postby 2cool4me4 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:03 pm

Yea, why?
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Postby Wolfmaster » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:21 pm

Facebook has a lot of Trojans.......... A lot of them have been put in Malwarebytes' database
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Postby Scaveleon » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Ovoon wrote:Why do so many people not like Facebook? It's a incredibly convenient tool to know more about whats going on with the people and businesses you care about. Yet so many people I know refuse to use it for some reason.

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Facebook used to be a tool where people could completely manage their privacy. Now, this is almost the opposite. You don't have any control over your privacy at all. Unless you don't use it.

Think about it, it was a tool used by college students. Now, it's a company on its own. The company haves the right to use all your information, find information about you(from other media and news), and without you knowing at all. They can even update your profile without your permission. And it gets worse, because everything that happens on Facebook is permanent. "Deleted" pictures and chat logs are kept for eternity on their server. Which means, should they want to, they can fetch your old pictures.

Now, why is this a problem? Because not only Facebook uses your private stuff, but also their marketing. Their ads are dependent on which information there is on your profile. The games on Facebook collect your data. So not only Facebook have access to it, unknown random advertisers also have access to your stuff without you knowing it. Put in perspective: Google does collect info about their users, but not their marketing associates.

Another thing which bugs me is that deleting your account is so hard. There's the "Deactivate" account, and if you dig deep enough, there's a delete account option, which is barely mentioned anywhere. Why do they have to complicate this? There are plenty of users on Facebook who doesn't even know this feature, and also a lot who can confuse the two easily. By confusing their users, many are tricked into thinking their account was deleted. And the account still stays on their server anyways, so it's only deleted from public view.

Customer service sucks too. Sometimes you won't even be warned before your account can be terminated. You can even get terminated for not updating your profile, because that would make the info inaccurate or "false," followed by a ban.

Lastly, the guy behind it all, Mark Zuckerberg, is infamous for having hacked the mail accounts of his rivals. It's amoral, and he could've had access to their money if he wanted to. Even with the changes Facebook have gone through - I don't trust his moral ethics are higher than the average standard.

Conclusion: After the success of Facebook, the rules got downgraded to the point where Facebook basically doesn't respect privacy. To me, there's only one reason why you would want to use Facebook - Because of its apparently popularity. Without popularity, it's worth nothing.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby wolveshouse » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:52 pm

I agree. Did you know that if you are a friend with someone, and they're a friend with someone else that you're not a friend of (let's say they're your archenemy, your friend's friend) and the friend of your friend (getting me here?) posts something bad about you, then you get that message through your friend? Amazing, rite?
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Postby 2cool4me4 » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:26 am

Leon Oar wrote:Facebook has a lot of Trojans.......... A lot of them have been put in Malwarebytes' database



Don't you test stuff like that?

I will NOT use Facebook, I prefer to keep my private things private.
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Postby Tabula Rasa » Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:40 am

I use Facebook to talk to friends. I use Myspace to meet girls.
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Postby 2cool4me4 » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:02 pm

:?

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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby Mike » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:05 pm

The issues of privacy in respect to facebook are a bit silly. I personally don't think I'm important enough for people to want to know about my private life. I mean, c'mon. The site has to make money, and it does so by using the private information. If you want to keep something private, just don't put it up on the site.

I use facebook to keep in touch with friends, and to spread the 001 love. No need to worry about your personal information, most people have more important things to do than care about your "personal information that you chose to put up publicly to begin with" :P.

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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby K-Pone » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:54 pm

Mike wrote: I personally don't think I'm important enough for people to want to know about my private life.

That's what many people think, but I still think there are always people interested in someone.

Mike wrote: If you want to keep something private, just don't put it up on the site.

I totally agree.
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Re: Social Networking Webistes.

Postby SBG » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:23 pm

I agree that what facebook does is unethical, but they don't do anything that any random cyberstalker could do as far as getting all of your information, so ultimately if your personal information winds up where you don't want it to be then it is your fault for putting it out there in the first place.


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